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		<title>By: About nationwide race, danica patrick, nascar, speedway &#124; Find me About</title>
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		<dc:creator>About nationwide race, danica patrick, nascar, speedway &#124; Find me About</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Danica Patrick could soon pose a problem for stock-car drivers. (Photo courtesy the Indy Racing League) By Jonathan Ingram &#124; Senior Writer I wrote the book on Danica Patrick, or perhaps more accurately, the unauthorized biography. &#8230;Read Original Story: Ingram: Patrick A Threat And An Inspiration &#8211; RacinToday.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Danica Patrick could soon pose a problem for stock-car drivers. (Photo courtesy the Indy Racing League) By Jonathan Ingram | Senior Writer I wrote the book on Danica Patrick, or perhaps more accurately, the unauthorized biography. &#8230;Read Original Story: Ingram: Patrick A Threat And An Inspiration &#8211; RacinToday.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ANM</title>
		<link>http://www.racintoday.com/archives/12687/comment-page-1#comment-10378</link>
		<dc:creator>ANM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll take Pat Moss, Michèle Mouton, Denise McCluggage,Janet Guthrie,Shirley Muldowney,Desire Wilson,Louise Aitken-Walker MBE,Lyn St James over any of today&#039;s overinflated hype.
Look them up, you&#039;ll find today&#039;s stars don&#039;t even glitter.
Heck, Stirling Moss&#039; mother Aillen was most likely more skilled behind the wheel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take Pat Moss, Michèle Mouton, Denise McCluggage,Janet Guthrie,Shirley Muldowney,Desire Wilson,Louise Aitken-Walker MBE,Lyn St James over any of today&#8217;s overinflated hype.<br />
Look them up, you&#8217;ll find today&#8217;s stars don&#8217;t even glitter.<br />
Heck, Stirling Moss&#8217; mother Aillen was most likely more skilled behind the wheel.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.racintoday.com/archives/12687/comment-page-1#comment-10359</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel, that&#039;s funny. Well not really all you have is snark in return to what is fact, not opinion, but fact.

But I&#039;m a fair guy, perchance you can prove the IndyCar drivers DON&#039;T tolerate G Forces of 4.5 in the corners at Indy and that NASCAR drivers at best only feel the force of about 3 G&#039;s.

I also note you still haven&#039;t given a valid reason why Danica performed at a higher level than her more experienced teammates, nor have you countered my claim that she has been given a crapwagon to drive as opposed to that run by both Penske and Ganassi.

Why is that?

It&#039;s darn easy to post what amounts to cheap snark that is unprovable, i.e. &lt;em&gt;&quot;You love her only for her driving ability&quot;&lt;/em&gt; it&#039;s much harder to counter facts isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, that&#8217;s funny. Well not really all you have is snark in return to what is fact, not opinion, but fact.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m a fair guy, perchance you can prove the IndyCar drivers DON&#8217;T tolerate G Forces of 4.5 in the corners at Indy and that NASCAR drivers at best only feel the force of about 3 G&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I also note you still haven&#8217;t given a valid reason why Danica performed at a higher level than her more experienced teammates, nor have you countered my claim that she has been given a crapwagon to drive as opposed to that run by both Penske and Ganassi.</p>
<p>Why is that?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s darn easy to post what amounts to cheap snark that is unprovable, i.e. <em>&#8220;You love her only for her driving ability&#8221;</em> it&#8217;s much harder to counter facts isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, OK, Marc, we get it.  You love her only for her driving ability. She could look like your 60 year-old maiden aunt on a bad day and you would still love her.  Yup, got that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, OK, Marc, we get it.  You love her only for her driving ability. She could look like your 60 year-old maiden aunt on a bad day and you would still love her.  Yup, got that.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.racintoday.com/archives/12687/comment-page-1#comment-10329</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel... you better ask those other males about that.

For my take those that complain about Kyle, Brad or Hamlin are just whining to be heard.

My point, and only point is many complain at the top of their voice about NASCAR and it&#039;s drivers not being like the old days when they had more so called &quot;personality.&quot;

Yet when someone like Kyle comes along, wins everything in sight, shows a bit of arrogance while doing it, not to mention &quot;moves a driver out of the way&quot; many hate him for it.

Kyle, like it or not, is a modern day Dale Sr., yet Dale Sr. in his day never received some of the trash talk directed at Kyle and others.

You can&#039;t have it both ways, heros and villians are in every sport and booing or cheering for them is a good thing. But the level of hate and childishness directed at Kyle, Danica and a few others is just that childish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel&#8230; you better ask those other males about that.</p>
<p>For my take those that complain about Kyle, Brad or Hamlin are just whining to be heard.</p>
<p>My point, and only point is many complain at the top of their voice about NASCAR and it&#8217;s drivers not being like the old days when they had more so called &#8220;personality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet when someone like Kyle comes along, wins everything in sight, shows a bit of arrogance while doing it, not to mention &#8220;moves a driver out of the way&#8221; many hate him for it.</p>
<p>Kyle, like it or not, is a modern day Dale Sr., yet Dale Sr. in his day never received some of the trash talk directed at Kyle and others.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways, heros and villians are in every sport and booing or cheering for them is a good thing. But the level of hate and childishness directed at Kyle, Danica and a few others is just that childish.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony Joseph says.... &lt;em&gt;&quot;Marc, according to ESPN, Danica weighs 100 pounds, not the 125 pounds you claim she does. The next time you go on a hate filled rant about the “factless” posts about your Princess, make sure you get your own facts right first.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry to say you missed one tiny point in what you call a &quot;rant.&quot;

Reread what was written as in clearly it was a quote of a so called racing reporter i.e. “because she’s only weighs 125lbs.”

Now, you want to talk facts go ahead, but I would also suggest ESPN, not USA Today who has also reported her weight as 100lbs are the best experts on the matter.

That said, perhaps you can explain why both Milka Duno and Sarah Fisher, who are said to weigh in at 120 pounds apiece by various sources, failed to have some so called advantage that Danica apparently has in some people&#039;s eyes?

Frankly I find it rather humorous you accuse me of a &quot;factless rant,&quot; yet you addressed none of the points I made.

You do know the IRL weight issue is a canard right? Both the 2008 and 2009 IRL season used ballast to equalize between differing weights of drivers.

Under the equal weight rule Danica has has improved in the points standings and did better than he much more experienced teammates in 2009. Your explanation for that is what Tony?

P.S. BTW I believe, correct me if I&#039;m wrong, Danica is Paul Hospenthal&#039;s Princess.

Not me, you might wanna correct the error in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Joseph says&#8230;. <em>&#8220;Marc, according to ESPN, Danica weighs 100 pounds, not the 125 pounds you claim she does. The next time you go on a hate filled rant about the “factless” posts about your Princess, make sure you get your own facts right first.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Sorry to say you missed one tiny point in what you call a &#8220;rant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reread what was written as in clearly it was a quote of a so called racing reporter i.e. “because she’s only weighs 125lbs.”</p>
<p>Now, you want to talk facts go ahead, but I would also suggest ESPN, not USA Today who has also reported her weight as 100lbs are the best experts on the matter.</p>
<p>That said, perhaps you can explain why both Milka Duno and Sarah Fisher, who are said to weigh in at 120 pounds apiece by various sources, failed to have some so called advantage that Danica apparently has in some people&#8217;s eyes?</p>
<p>Frankly I find it rather humorous you accuse me of a &#8220;factless rant,&#8221; yet you addressed none of the points I made.</p>
<p>You do know the IRL weight issue is a canard right? Both the 2008 and 2009 IRL season used ballast to equalize between differing weights of drivers.</p>
<p>Under the equal weight rule Danica has has improved in the points standings and did better than he much more experienced teammates in 2009. Your explanation for that is what Tony?</p>
<p>P.S. BTW I believe, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, Danica is Paul Hospenthal&#8217;s Princess.</p>
<p>Not me, you might wanna correct the error in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, according to ESPN, Danica weighs 100 pounds, not the 125 pounds you claim she does.  The next time you go on a hate filled rant about the &quot;factless&quot; posts about your Princess, make sure you get your own facts right first.

FWIW, this &quot;factless&quot; poster would like to post that Danica Patrick has won exactly ONE race since transitioning to full sized racing cars in 1997.  Before Motegi, she last won a full race in a kart when Clinton was still the President.  If anybody wants to come up with some ridiculous excuse about how Danica&#039;s latest 3 season at Andretti Autosport affected her ability to win in her previous 10 seasons elsewhere, please take off your GoDaddy green colored glasses (previously Motorola blue and Boost Mobile orange colored) first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, according to ESPN, Danica weighs 100 pounds, not the 125 pounds you claim she does.  The next time you go on a hate filled rant about the &#8220;factless&#8221; posts about your Princess, make sure you get your own facts right first.</p>
<p>FWIW, this &#8220;factless&#8221; poster would like to post that Danica Patrick has won exactly ONE race since transitioning to full sized racing cars in 1997.  Before Motegi, she last won a full race in a kart when Clinton was still the President.  If anybody wants to come up with some ridiculous excuse about how Danica&#8217;s latest 3 season at Andretti Autosport affected her ability to win in her previous 10 seasons elsewhere, please take off your GoDaddy green colored glasses (previously Motorola blue and Boost Mobile orange colored) first.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, I am not against Danica because she is a woman.  If she performs at a high level, I will give her credit for that.  But her b!tchiness cannot be denied.  I wonder if the males in the audience will forgive her that character flaw at the same time they call Kyle Busch or Brad K. or Denny Hamlin jerks and cry-babies? Or will Junior&#039;s fans give her a free pass for her failures like they give to him?  The double standard lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, I am not against Danica because she is a woman.  If she performs at a high level, I will give her credit for that.  But her b!tchiness cannot be denied.  I wonder if the males in the audience will forgive her that character flaw at the same time they call Kyle Busch or Brad K. or Denny Hamlin jerks and cry-babies? Or will Junior&#8217;s fans give her a free pass for her failures like they give to him?  The double standard lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Rachel... &lt;em&gt;&quot;Yes, Damon, Danica has won a grand total of ONE race with a super-funded team.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Can you explain how this so called &quot;super funded team&quot; was so far behind performance wise with respect to the real super funded teams, Ganassi and Penske?

And how do you explain why she out performed Tony Kanaan who has much more experience the she does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Rachel&#8230; <em>&#8220;Yes, Damon, Danica has won a grand total of ONE race with a super-funded team.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Can you explain how this so called &#8220;super funded team&#8221; was so far behind performance wise with respect to the real super funded teams, Ganassi and Penske?</p>
<p>And how do you explain why she out performed Tony Kanaan who has much more experience the she does?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.racintoday.com/archives/12687/comment-page-1#comment-10305</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damon .... Nice to see someone with a more honest assessment of Danica&#039;s talent and potential.

Although I have to add, her performance was even more impressive this year given she out performed her teammate Tony Kanaan who has won the IndyCar championship in 2004 and scored 3 top 5&#039;s in the Indy 500.

And she did so in a team that by all accounts was in disarray, not to mention light years behind Penske and Ganassi in performance.

Frankly, it&#039;s all too easy for some of you arm chair critics who have never gone faster than say, 100mph, to posture yourselves as some type of &quot;expert,&quot; truth is you, nor does anyone else now how she will do.

The lack of facts fail to stop any of you, and I&#039;ve heard and read it all. Everything from she would never last 500 miles at Daytona &quot;because she&#039;s only weighs 125lbs.&quot;

Lack of body mass doesn&#039;t seem to bother Mark Martin who weighs in at a tidy 135lbs.

Some say she won&#039;t be able to withstand the  G Forces involved with racing stock cars.

Drivers during the Indy 500 race competitively while withstanding G Forces in excess of 4.5 G&#039;s. In NASCAR, as opposed to the open-wheel cars of the Indy 500, drivers experience 2-3 G&#039;s on turns.

In that sense Danica&#039;s time in stock cars is less stressful than in open wheel.

But none of this matters to the factless and, kneejerk haters of Danica.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damon &#8230;. Nice to see someone with a more honest assessment of Danica&#8217;s talent and potential.</p>
<p>Although I have to add, her performance was even more impressive this year given she out performed her teammate Tony Kanaan who has won the IndyCar championship in 2004 and scored 3 top 5&#8217;s in the Indy 500.</p>
<p>And she did so in a team that by all accounts was in disarray, not to mention light years behind Penske and Ganassi in performance.</p>
<p>Frankly, it&#8217;s all too easy for some of you arm chair critics who have never gone faster than say, 100mph, to posture yourselves as some type of &#8220;expert,&#8221; truth is you, nor does anyone else now how she will do.</p>
<p>The lack of facts fail to stop any of you, and I&#8217;ve heard and read it all. Everything from she would never last 500 miles at Daytona &#8220;because she&#8217;s only weighs 125lbs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lack of body mass doesn&#8217;t seem to bother Mark Martin who weighs in at a tidy 135lbs.</p>
<p>Some say she won&#8217;t be able to withstand the  G Forces involved with racing stock cars.</p>
<p>Drivers during the Indy 500 race competitively while withstanding G Forces in excess of 4.5 G&#8217;s. In NASCAR, as opposed to the open-wheel cars of the Indy 500, drivers experience 2-3 G&#8217;s on turns.</p>
<p>In that sense Danica&#8217;s time in stock cars is less stressful than in open wheel.</p>
<p>But none of this matters to the factless and, kneejerk haters of Danica.</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No talent, yet beat all three teammates on her team this year (which went winless) and finished 5th in points, with only the Penske/Ganassi cars ahead of her (who won all but 1 race in 2009).


And if you&#039;re going to hold her lack of wins against her, you might as well look at Graham Rahal and his 1 win in 3 years driving for Newman/Haas/Lanigan, which was a powerhouse team when they had Seabastien Bourdais and Marco with his 1 win in 4 years driving for his dad&#039;s team, the same team Danica&#039;s on.


Wins and wins alone don&#039;t dictate that somebody has a lack of talent as much as they do the circumstances of racing, just look at Vitor Meira in the IRL. Danica has more wins than he does, but I doubt you&#039;d say he wasn&#039;t more talented than her, now would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No talent, yet beat all three teammates on her team this year (which went winless) and finished 5th in points, with only the Penske/Ganassi cars ahead of her (who won all but 1 race in 2009).</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re going to hold her lack of wins against her, you might as well look at Graham Rahal and his 1 win in 3 years driving for Newman/Haas/Lanigan, which was a powerhouse team when they had Seabastien Bourdais and Marco with his 1 win in 4 years driving for his dad&#8217;s team, the same team Danica&#8217;s on.</p>
<p>Wins and wins alone don&#8217;t dictate that somebody has a lack of talent as much as they do the circumstances of racing, just look at Vitor Meira in the IRL. Danica has more wins than he does, but I doubt you&#8217;d say he wasn&#8217;t more talented than her, now would you?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Damon, Danica has won a grand total of ONE race with a super-funded team, while SF, along with her father, tried to self-fund her team.  Of course, Sarah doesn&#039;t have that coveted Go-Daddy sponsorship wherein she portrays a whore on TV commericals.  Yup, Danica is the whole package - no talent, great body, and a perfect example of that word that rhymes with witch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Damon, Danica has won a grand total of ONE race with a super-funded team, while SF, along with her father, tried to self-fund her team.  Of course, Sarah doesn&#8217;t have that coveted Go-Daddy sponsorship wherein she portrays a whore on TV commericals.  Yup, Danica is the whole package &#8211; no talent, great body, and a perfect example of that word that rhymes with witch.</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah Fisher hasn&#039;t done squad to be considered anything for anybody, Danica OTOH has won a race, 3 poles, finished top 5 in points, won Indycar rookie of the year honors along with being named Indy 500 rookie of the year and has 4 top 10&#039;s/2 top 5&#039;s in her first 5 Indy 500 starts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah Fisher hasn&#8217;t done squad to be considered anything for anybody, Danica OTOH has won a race, 3 poles, finished top 5 in points, won Indycar rookie of the year honors along with being named Indy 500 rookie of the year and has 4 top 10&#8217;s/2 top 5&#8217;s in her first 5 Indy 500 starts.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve863</title>
		<link>http://www.racintoday.com/archives/12687/comment-page-1#comment-10295</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve863</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve-zero, is it cold in your mom&#039;s basement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve-zero, is it cold in your mom&#8217;s basement?</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danica is neither a threat nor an inspiration.  At least not the kind of inspiration young women need. &quot;Don&#039;t worry about your actual achievements, girls, just flaunt your attributes.&quot;  Would there be such a fuss over Sarah Fisher, or is she just lacking the proper &quot;attributes&quot; to get your attention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danica is neither a threat nor an inspiration.  At least not the kind of inspiration young women need. &#8220;Don&#8217;t worry about your actual achievements, girls, just flaunt your attributes.&#8221;  Would there be such a fuss over Sarah Fisher, or is she just lacking the proper &#8220;attributes&#8221; to get your attention?</p>
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