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		<title>By: RACERX</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not Robbie or Casey its the sport.Having been involved in racing for more than forty years I have kept a record of the trends and dynamics of the sport. NASCAR is losing steam plain and simple. The first mistake, Brian France. He changed the formula which had worked so well for many years. Too much expansion. California was a big mistake,those folks were used to real racing where passing and crashing were the norm. There are far to many things to do in California on a Sunday other than watch a boring race.Notice the stands at Fontana? Same goes for other areas of the country where there is a wide range of other events and sports. The people who would come like Kentucky can&#039;t get a race,its too late now for that track Kentuckians have moved on! Toyota, for the fans it brought into the sport it lost three times as many. Closing tracks in the southeast the base of which NASCAR was born. Not letting drivers be drivers,that one belongs to Mike Helton. The COT,the largest reason! You can&#039;t massage it,it looks like crap and I can&#039;t go buy one at my local dealer!( You want to see a series that is thriving, the ALMS because the cars in the GT classes look like cars)Go to your local dirt track on a Saturday night if you want thrills and spills,makes a NASCAR race seem like a painful tooth extraction! Attention span, who wants to set in the sun for four hours watching cars go round and round while you cook! NASCAR is or was a social event,fans are so over that. Hypocrisy,Joe Gibbs &amp; Michael Waltrip, purported NO.1 Christians (Darrel included) but yet the run Toyota&#039;s from a country where less than 1% are Christians,? GM and Ford kept NASCAR going for years, especially GM when at one time there were Chevy&#039;s,Oldsmobile&#039;s and Pontiac&#039;s all on the Track. Then they let Toyota come in and combine the best of Ford,Dodge and Chevy in the engine department, NASCAR bent the rules for them as they made no push rod engines! Real or knowledgeable fans saw this for what it was,Brian France wanted Toyota&#039;s money. Thank GOD for drivers like Dale Jr. and Tony Stewart who said NO to Toyota and increased their fan base buy thousands. Now some of you are saying who is this guy and why does he think he knows so much. My wife&#039;s family has been involved with NASCAR since 1949 they are owners of several of NASCAR&#039;s tracks. I have worked in racing since I was seven years old. I know and consider many of the crews and drivers friends. I hate the way NASCAR has treated the guys that made the sport what it is.I agree that the two elder France&#039;s made great contributions to the sport but both going into the Hall of fame at the same time while the real hero&#039;s may take years to get in? They should have separated into categories, Car Owners - Drivers - Crew Members - Track Owners or Promoters - Significant Contribution to NASCAR. I believe the Two Frances should have been inducted separately from the others, we know what a contribution they made to the Sport. They should be in the first class but they aren&#039;t the ones who the people came to see. I never heard any one say I&#039;m going to the races to see Big Bill France,but I have heard people say David Pearson can drive the wheels off that thing.Bobby Alison has given about as much as anyone can to the sport and with a little help from brother Donnie and fellow driver Cale, helped launch NASCAR into the TV era. The Frances were a given, they should have been in outside of the vote and Bobby and David should have been there with Dale,Richard and Junior. All of this leads to sponsors leaving,they just don&#039;t get the bang for buck anymore,the INTERNET is where it is at now and it is so much cheaper to advertise. You can reach so many more people with much less.The economy is one factor for sure but if you were going to advertise your product  would your spend millions on a NASCAR sponsorship or a few thousand on the internet and reach many more potential consumers? I predict that over the next few years you will see bankrupt tracks and teams! Some are just barely hanging on now. The new generation are not big NASCAR fans and I don&#039;t see that changing!NASCAR has alienated old fans like myself and they damn sure aren&#039;t coming back so where will the new fans come from, Brazil I don&#039;t think so! Brian France will go down as the man who killed NASCAR !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not Robbie or Casey its the sport.Having been involved in racing for more than forty years I have kept a record of the trends and dynamics of the sport. NASCAR is losing steam plain and simple. The first mistake, Brian France. He changed the formula which had worked so well for many years. Too much expansion. California was a big mistake,those folks were used to real racing where passing and crashing were the norm. There are far to many things to do in California on a Sunday other than watch a boring race.Notice the stands at Fontana? Same goes for other areas of the country where there is a wide range of other events and sports. The people who would come like Kentucky can&#8217;t get a race,its too late now for that track Kentuckians have moved on! Toyota, for the fans it brought into the sport it lost three times as many. Closing tracks in the southeast the base of which NASCAR was born. Not letting drivers be drivers,that one belongs to Mike Helton. The COT,the largest reason! You can&#8217;t massage it,it looks like crap and I can&#8217;t go buy one at my local dealer!( You want to see a series that is thriving, the ALMS because the cars in the GT classes look like cars)Go to your local dirt track on a Saturday night if you want thrills and spills,makes a NASCAR race seem like a painful tooth extraction! Attention span, who wants to set in the sun for four hours watching cars go round and round while you cook! NASCAR is or was a social event,fans are so over that. Hypocrisy,Joe Gibbs &amp; Michael Waltrip, purported NO.1 Christians (Darrel included) but yet the run Toyota&#8217;s from a country where less than 1% are Christians,? GM and Ford kept NASCAR going for years, especially GM when at one time there were Chevy&#8217;s,Oldsmobile&#8217;s and Pontiac&#8217;s all on the Track. Then they let Toyota come in and combine the best of Ford,Dodge and Chevy in the engine department, NASCAR bent the rules for them as they made no push rod engines! Real or knowledgeable fans saw this for what it was,Brian France wanted Toyota&#8217;s money. Thank GOD for drivers like Dale Jr. and Tony Stewart who said NO to Toyota and increased their fan base buy thousands. Now some of you are saying who is this guy and why does he think he knows so much. My wife&#8217;s family has been involved with NASCAR since 1949 they are owners of several of NASCAR&#8217;s tracks. I have worked in racing since I was seven years old. I know and consider many of the crews and drivers friends. I hate the way NASCAR has treated the guys that made the sport what it is.I agree that the two elder France&#8217;s made great contributions to the sport but both going into the Hall of fame at the same time while the real hero&#8217;s may take years to get in? They should have separated into categories, Car Owners &#8211; Drivers &#8211; Crew Members &#8211; Track Owners or Promoters &#8211; Significant Contribution to NASCAR. I believe the Two Frances should have been inducted separately from the others, we know what a contribution they made to the Sport. They should be in the first class but they aren&#8217;t the ones who the people came to see. I never heard any one say I&#8217;m going to the races to see Big Bill France,but I have heard people say David Pearson can drive the wheels off that thing.Bobby Alison has given about as much as anyone can to the sport and with a little help from brother Donnie and fellow driver Cale, helped launch NASCAR into the TV era. The Frances were a given, they should have been in outside of the vote and Bobby and David should have been there with Dale,Richard and Junior. All of this leads to sponsors leaving,they just don&#8217;t get the bang for buck anymore,the INTERNET is where it is at now and it is so much cheaper to advertise. You can reach so many more people with much less.The economy is one factor for sure but if you were going to advertise your product  would your spend millions on a NASCAR sponsorship or a few thousand on the internet and reach many more potential consumers? I predict that over the next few years you will see bankrupt tracks and teams! Some are just barely hanging on now. The new generation are not big NASCAR fans and I don&#8217;t see that changing!NASCAR has alienated old fans like myself and they damn sure aren&#8217;t coming back so where will the new fans come from, Brazil I don&#8217;t think so! Brian France will go down as the man who killed NASCAR !</p>
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		<title>By: toomuchcountry</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I&#039;ve read, Jim Beam is re-directing their marketing dollars to a Kid Rock tour. Whatever. But knowing his popularity, they&#039;re likely to get more of a return than they did with Robby Gordon running in the back. Jack D is more of a surprise for me. I think they&#039;re sales have actually increased in this tough economic period. Would think they might continue. But let&#039;s face it. When your racing spokesmen include Dave Blaney and Casey Mears, that&#039;s probably not going to motivate many folks to drink Ol&#039; #7. Me thinks they might return one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve read, Jim Beam is re-directing their marketing dollars to a Kid Rock tour. Whatever. But knowing his popularity, they&#8217;re likely to get more of a return than they did with Robby Gordon running in the back. Jack D is more of a surprise for me. I think they&#8217;re sales have actually increased in this tough economic period. Would think they might continue. But let&#8217;s face it. When your racing spokesmen include Dave Blaney and Casey Mears, that&#8217;s probably not going to motivate many folks to drink Ol&#8217; #7. Me thinks they might return one day.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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